pokemon showdown ou 雨隊 雪隊求評

cbacbacba1

本人為網上隊戰的新手 , 以下為2隊初在showdown組的天氣隊
雨隊勝率被雪隊高少許
但感覺仍有不足 , 望大家比少少意見改進一下:handshake

雨隊

Politoed @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 Spe
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
- Rest

Sharpedo @ Sharpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Protect
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Fang

Toxicroak @ Black Sludge
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Sucker Punch
- Drain Punch
- Swords Dance

Ludicolo @ Assault Vest
Ability: Rain Dish
EVs: 164 HP / 140 Def / 68 SpA / 4 SpD / 132 Spe
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Giga Drain
- Fake Out
- Ice Beam

Kabutops @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet
- Rapid Spin

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 Spe
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Fling
- Acrobatics
- Earthquake

感覺上得一隻濕滑好似唔夠善用雨天
牛蛙君出奇地耐久高 遇上雷烏10w都唔死:L
整體上就是靠毒戰鬥士劍舞清場....

雪隊 :
Abomasnow (F) @ Abomasite
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 8 HP / 160 Atk / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 84 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Blizzard
- Earthquake
- Giga Drain
- Ice Shard

Froslass (F) @ BrightPowder
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hex
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Destiny Bond

Weavile (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Taunt
- Low Kick
- Knock Off

Clefable (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Calm Nature
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled
- Calm Mind
- Flamethrower

Mamoswine @ Life Orb
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash
- Protect

Slowbro (F) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Blizzard
- Psychic

雪人mega後不太給力
整體隊伍對鋼系不太有力 通常只能靠皮可斯calm mind後火放硬推
遇上鬼劍八成機會給滅隊:(
感覺上雪妖女基本上未出招而比人秒
諗過好唔好換冰e , 但係冰e好似仲易被秒:L
大呆獸諗緊好唔好將psychic 換火放推鋼系

John_Yiu

暫時只給雨隊提供一些意見~
我建議你轉用Mega 巨沼怪或Mega 巨鉗螳螂

Mega 巨沼怪：雨隊中其中一個致命威脅是雷電雲的先制電磁波，一旦濕滑寵中了電磁波，將會被廢了武功，Mega 巨沼怪卻因其屬能有效阻止先制電磁波，並且是一隻很給力的濕滑寵
Mega 巨鉗螳螂：在雨中火系傷減至兩倍，為Mega 巨鉗螳螂提供了不差的優勢，而且巨鉗螳螂也可為你擋下龍系及妖精系的技能 (你隊冇野頂到龍及妖系技)

建議配法如下：

Mega 巨沼怪
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Power-Up Punch

Mega 巨鉗螳螂
Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bug Bite
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower

若選用Mega巨沼怪，建議配隻鋼系寵擋下龍系及妖精系的技能，例如草鋼是很好的雨隊隊員
若選用Mega巨鉗螳螂，建議配隻可擋下雷電雲的先制電磁波或可以治療麻痺的隊員，例如濕滑音爆蟾蜍或Healing Wish 拉妹

另外一些建議：
1. 牛蛙君剩飯轉做Damp Rock，令5 turns 雨變成8 turns，不用解釋好處了吧xd
2. 鐮刀蟲建議將Aqua Jet/Rapid Spin 轉做 Low Kick for 草鋼、帝王拿波等寵，也能保證在非下雨時一擊殺掉班吉拉及司令；另外亦可考慮選用劍舞取代Aqua Jet/Rapid Spin，所以是Waterfall, Swords Dance, Stone Edge and Low Kick
3. 毒骷蛙建議轉用命玉Life Orb 為道具
4. 不建議雨隊中使用天蠍王，因為増加了其水系弱點，可轉用相應建議配合Mega巨沼怪/Mega巨鉗螳螂的隊員

5. 牛蛙君建議使用以下配法：

Politoed @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Hypnosis
- Encore / Perish Song
- Rest

OR

Politoed (M) @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 172 HP / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 84 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Encore / Perish Song / Focus Blast (按排名分先後)
- Rest

6. 樂天河童建議使用以下配法：

Ludicolo @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 29 HP / 0 Atk
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball / Giga Drain
- Focus Blast

這裡是我修改後的隊伍 (測試了2場)，你可以參考一下
http://pastebin.com/aNCWZHZC

以下有一些Replays (1500分場)：
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-231107211
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-231108311 (Turn 3 會睇到雨隊點為Mega巨鉗螳螂帶來優勢)